"I am looking for mature women!"
Screamed desperately the poor super beginner student of seduction in Italy.
And so it was that, pitying and concerned for the Rampant marasmus of fake gurus (or rather, very real Marketing gurus) like that of the Italian seduction industry…
The voice of wisdom, omniscience cool, of hope… Gio di Lorenzo… wrote an article for him too.
Joking aside, today we talk about chat with mature women, milf, cougars, trying to understand if it is a good idea to know them in chat or if it is better to use other systems.
First, let's start with a few premises.
Because I am the only one who can afford to talk about knowing mature women
I make a premise in the premise.
As they say in English
"The name of the game is younger, hotter, tighter."
Which could be translated as
Seduction must allow you to meet and seduce women who are younger, more beautiful and physically fitter than you are
Obviously taking for granted that you have realistic expectations.
In fact, if you, with all the love I can give you, are so unattractive that when you were born, the doctor told your mother…
"And please, ma'am, don't make any more…"
In the same way as the Lord Almighty who, in Super Fantozzi, chases him and his "Eve" out of the earthly paradise, saying
"Go and reproduce … AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE."
In short, if despite all this you hope to make the staff of Victoria Secret models, without even status…
Well continue to believe in fairy tales.
If, on the other hand, you are a man who is not asking seduction for a miracle but for a realistic increase in your performance (and often realistic is much more than you think you can achieve) then we speak the same language.
But this is not the main topic of this article, so if you want to know more I have mentioned the issue in a YouTube video that you can watch by clicking here.
Now, despite what seduction techniques allow you to do, I think we can all agree on one thing…
Although the majority of men are interested in younger women, it often happens that we see a woman obviously older than us that we would like to know and seduce anyway.
I have no problem in saying that I belong to this category.
I think I'm the only one who can talk about mature women because, among the so many tests produced, I also proved to be effective on this type of target, as you yourself can verify here.
Unfortunately I am aware that this is wasted breath because the Italian students will continue to give confidence (blind) to people who never nothing have demonstrated in the field (or so little that nothing would be perhaps better).
In any case, while I can't stop people from being beaten, at the same time these things are good to remember.
For those who are not this article on how to know mature women
You may not know this, but when I write an article, to "make Google like you" I have to include some keywords in it.
I won't hide the fact that this is a real pain for me because, if it were up to me, I'd write the article as I like, but instead I have to find a way to give you the highest quality while winking at Google and I guarantee you that it's a pain in the neck.
This is necessary for the article to be found on Google.
All this to tell you that, doing the research of the keywords to use I found out that in italy there are people who search on Google…
Chat with married women or chat for married people
Now, I understand very well that, in life, it can certainly happen to have meetings with married women.
Just as it can happen that once the die is cast biology takes its course, man and woman want each other and..
This is to say that, as you may know I have a practical and not a romantic view of life and so I am absolutely fine with things like this happening.
That said..
One thing is that they happen by chance, without being planned. It's quite another to specifically target married women, whatever the reason may be.
Consequently if you are looking for a dating site for married women you have to make do on your own as, on this point, I am not going to give you a hand.
I'm also not going to lend a hand to those who are looking for…
Dating with older women
If you have a fetish of this type I'm sorry but you have to do it yourself.
At this point though let me make a note: usually when men ask me…
"Gio where I can chat with mature women?"
These are mainly young men who are attracted to older women.
So what I wrote was to clarify that I don't want to help a 20 year old man to sleep with a 60 year old woman.
Maybe I'm wrong and I'm judgemental as they say in English (which we could translate as moralist although it's not exactly the same thing)..
But as a human being I have my limits.
If you are an older gentleman and you want the company of an older lady the matter changes and, even if this article is not meant for you, you will find in it some hints on how to meet mature women in chat that are good for you too.
The same applies in case you are a mature man who wants to chat with mature women.
So this article is good for anyone who is looking for cougar dating.
Let's start with some false myths and then see how to meet these women in practice, online and offline.
Myth #1: Search chat with mature women for free
You don't need to look for a particular site to meet mature women and in a little while we will understand why.
Having said that, men online are always looking for Free.
Why this is not a good idea is a long speech and not to go off topic, if you want to go deeper I refer you to this free video that you can watch by clicking here.
Having said that I want to add this for you.
Women gravitate to where the money is. This does not make them golddiggers. It's simply a force of nature that drives them to go where there are resources and consequently promotes the survival of the species.
So, for example, you will see better women in a cool club than in a club where when you walk your feet are stuck to the ground, glued to the beer slicks.
Beautiful or ugly it is so and it is right.
In fact even prices change depending on the type of venue and it's only fair that the best women gravitate towards the more expensive ones.
This is due to the fact that if you, as a man, are willing to invest more on your dating life you will be, statistically speaking, a better man.
So again, I'm not talking about golddiggers, but of nature taking its course.
The same principle applies to the online world, especially if you are looking for women of a certain age because, for them, the fact that you have put in place your economic life is often a prerequisite.
So, if you want my warm advice, forget about chatting with mature women for free.
Myth number 2: "let me look for a chat for single women, if I find it will be easy"
Many men think that a woman, if at a certain age she finds herself alone, will automatically become easy.
In some ways it's true: the more a woman advances with age the more her value on the sexual market drops and consequently lowers her standards. However, it is important to understand one thing.
Still very attractive women in their 40s and 50s online can find plenty of handsome young men willing to "take her for a ride".
You don't have to take it. This is simply how the world works. Women, should they want to, have more access to sex than men do.
If however you want "playing to win easy", in reality you run into two problems.
The first is that you will find only desperate women who want to play this game.
The second is that if you target desperate women you are desperate too.
And play damage control in the desperate position "finding at least one hole in time of famine" is not the smartest choice. What you should do instead is follow all the path I explain on this site and in my YouTube videos to improve as a man and start attracting better women.
Myth #3: dating chat with mature women = free sex
Many men tend to think that just because a woman is now a milf, you become a sex-crazed nymphomaniac who gives it away like bread.
If you are interested in sites with mature women for this reason and not for your own personal taste, I'll save you the trouble.
Forget it in the beginning.
In fact, if you want to have sex quickly is much better to focus on very young women, around 20 years, where the statistical chance that this happens is higher.
That way, if you are young, you don't have to go through a thousand breakups with a lot of milf Who think you're not big enough for them.
Don't get me wrong with this, I'm not saying that there aren't mature women who will have sex with you quickly and you'll get the "they'll give for free" just because they are fascinated by your youth.
I'm not even saying that there aren't some that after a certain age become more sexually aggressive and libertine.
But just as there are these there will be others who want to wait for sex because they are now ladies.
Others who are tired of being fucked and thrown away, especially at this age, and so want to wait to have sex to test if your interest is genuine.
And all the cases in this world between the two opposite poles I just described to you.
I'm telling you this because I know that many men are attracted to the world of mature women because they are They think it's sex-easy land, in fact living in an enchanted world that exists only in their heads.
Again, if you are, for your own personal taste, interested in women who are kinda like wine, then it is another pair of sleeves but, for practical purposes, frankly it is convenient to be interested in this target for the right reasons.
Myth #4: You need specialized adult dating sites to meet mature women
This is not true.
Although there are such sites (I went looking for them for you), the truth is you don't need them.
First let's go see them, then I'll explain why I want to suggest different solutions to you.
What's more, when it comes to dating sites, you always have to be careful because the further away you get from the bigger and more famous ones, the more you maximize the risk of running into scams.
Simply put, the more niche the dating site, the greater the chance that this is a red herring.
Not all niche dating sites are like this. Sometimes there are legitimate ones but it's always good to keep in mind what I just told you.
For the same reason, avoid free chat for over 40 and 50.
They may seem specialized at first glance but we have talked about why the word free doesn't fit, assuming you find something like this.
Sites with mature women and adult chat: they really exist?
There are really portals where you can find mature women in chat rooms?
The answer to this question is yes. I've selected 3 and if you're interested I'll leave the links at the end of this paragraph, but first let me say a couple of things.
Thing number zero (i.e. premise to premise): I'm not a fan of these portals and, consequently, I apologize if I missed any of them. Beyond the pure purpose of writing this article, I'm quite happy to be ignorant on this subject.
Well… let's move on to our premises.
The first is that I am NOT giving any endorsement to these sites, I have never tried them and I have no intention of trying them.
I don't have any need or desire for it but, so skin deep, I'm not the optimal choice.
Of course you are free to take a test, the important thing is that if it goes wrong don't blame me because, I repeat, I am not recommending them to you. I just found them and they seem to be the biggest. Point.
That said, whatever kind of site or app you want to try my advice is to start with my Digital Seduction manual that explains the same strategies that allowed me to set 18 dates in two days in Rome.
Well, do all the due diligence disclaimer, here are the links to the sites I found:
DonneMatureIncontriri.com
AdultFriendFinder
Milfincontri.net
In any case, if you are interested in finding mature women in chat rooms my advice is to use the biggest dating sites there are.
In fact it is always difficult to distinguish the serious ones from those who are not and I am not the right person to help you do that.
As you've seen in my 18 dates video the major referral sites are already bringing me more "traffic" than I can handle and, for reasons I've explained many times elsewhere…
Dating coming from day and night is on average preferable to dating coming from online and hence, there is no reason to become a tester of any kind of dating site on the market.
If anything, my advice is not to do it and to devote yourself to more profitable activities such as those that I indicate continuously on the site and YouTube channel.
Chatting with mature women: here's where you can do it
The truth is that online you do not need to rack your brains to find mature women.
The places that will always attract the most mature women online will be, no ifs or buts, the biggest dating sites and apps. Mainly the latter as generally women of a certain age are a bit less tech-savvy, but that's not going to last long so apps are good enough places too.
"Yes Gio your point is well made but I don't just want a site that has mature women listed, I also want the milf's to be nice and hot."
I could also understand this desire of yours but you have to understand the female nature.
If in fact you are interested in mature women, realistically you will like those who are a bit more attractive.
These have however a lot of offers even online.
If you don't believe me try yourself to do an experiment by making a fake profile with a beautiful milf, see how many messages you receive and then let me know how it went.
So if you persist in believing the fairy tale of nymphomaniac milf sites, in all likelihood, if these are not real scams, you will become the sweeper of the web.
Said in other words: the milf you will probably find they will not be beautiful, to put it mildly.
So my advice is to trust yourself, as always, to big and famous sites, where you are sure not to take it in that place and if you want to learn how to "squeeze" the best possible results from these click here.
Now let's talk for a moment about shenanigans and then let's see the best strategy to meet mature women online.
Knowing mature women online and shenanigans
If you've taken the trouble to read this far you probably cherish and value my judgment and, if that's your case, I thank you for the trust.
In the face of this I thought it was worth spending a few words to avoid swindles.
The first step is rely on the most popular platforms to meet women online.
A second piece of advice is to stay away from message boards with ads for mature women. Trust me, they are mainly scams and even if they weren't, behind that ad there is certainly no Disney-style princess.
I tell you from the heart, if you have thought about "solutions" of this type let it go and embark on a full-bodied journey in improving as a man and learn all that I teach.
Finally deserves two words also the speech mature women in cam.
Even if you could find a site where mature women undress on cam for you… It certainly won't bring a real live woman into your life (in addition to the fact that rather than emptying your wallet unnecessarily, so many is worth watching a porno, although I do not recommend it).
In any case pay to watch a woman undress and at best stand there hiding behind a screen like a spider watching a vezza That moves, certainly not good for your inner game, your self-esteem, and your sense of worth as a man.
So, for your own good, you do the right things, that is, the things that I advise you to do.
How to meet mature women in chat: there is a strategy?
Actually there are two possible strategies.
The first one is start in the right way.
In fact, in my manual Digital Seduction I explain how, depending on the age target of the girl or woman we contact, there are first messages that have better conversion rates.
The reason is very simple and has reasons evolutionary.
Basically a younger woman will respond better to a first message more "alpha" as it is still in that age group for which it seeks good genes and adventures.
More mature women, always for the reasons that we have seen, are statistically more looking for something more serious and, consequently, They respond better to a first message that seems sewn on purpose on them and that makes them feel that you want to know her for real.
Obviously it is not necessary to invent a new message every time but there are various templates that you can use to get this result without racking your brain.
I explain all this in my course Digital Seduction.
A second strategy that is technically more complex, but that gives interesting results, is that of pure lover. This serves to Sifting through women interested in sex (even quickly) once you've met.
So if you want to meet mature women and make sex happen quickly can be a great strategy.
This concept deserves to be discussed in detail and, as a result, I will most likely discuss it in a dedicated article or YouTube video.
Meetings with mature women: do they have to be in chat rooms?
Absolutely not, on the contrary, as always, online is seldom the best place to meet women although, depending on your age, online could still be a good solution depending on the case.
But you can meet mature women even in nightclubs, as long as in your city or in your area there are clubs specialized for a larger audience.
For example, without wanting to advertise to anyone, years ago, when I lived in Milan, there was this club called Pelledoca that attracted women more forward in age.
That's not necessarily the case yet, but I'm sure that if you're interested in a more mature target audience, in the big cities there is at least one club that attracts him, at least one night a week.
And if you want to learn how to get the best when you go out to nightclubs I'll explain how to do it here.
"And during the day I can't meet mature women?"
If you follow me you know for sure that I teach how to approach during the day too.
And as I've already told you in Matrix I give a couple of demonstrations of how to be effective on mature women. If you are interested in learning more you can click here.
And… I'm going by memory, there should be a couple if not more in Matrix 2 when it comes out.
So you might ask, rightly so
"But so is the day okay or not?"
The pure truth is that the day is good if you accept this: the older women get, the higher the statistical probability that they will be mated (and therefore receive a no).
In fact, since being of a certain age they feel less courted, they will often feel grateful for your approach and you will make their day better, even if they are busy.
Having said that to recommend meeting mature women during the day you should have the answers to several questions such as..
Do you live in a big enough city that allows you to not "get a reputation"?
You are socially calibrated enough not to bother them too much in case of a no? (Interacting with a young girl is different than with a woman)
Your age is similar to that of the woman or you are a young boy chasing milf?
In the face of all these questions without an answer my general advice is to leave this target group alone during the day, at least if you give me a student closed box.
If instead you feel, at your own risk, to be suitable to approach this kind of target audience, at the end of the day you better at least do it the technically right way, as I teach here.
Well, that's it for today. See you soon,
Gio